Which To Choose:Immortals or Warriors?

This has been a topic of debate with myself really and I can imagine with most of the rest of you.

On the surface I immediately went straight to Immortals being that they had a better save....Then I thought how cheap the Warriors are, I can take say 30 of them for a mere 390 points. That is pretty impressive. That is not to say you will take 30 but I would for that cheap haha. The thing that makes them more tempting is they have Gauss which you can auto glance on a 6, if you bring 30, very tasty. And I think if this is coupled with a couple of big units of Scarabs, obviously one of the stars of the Codex, I think those shots could get scary. Very scary. This is just one case for them. There is also the case for bringing a Ghost Ark. What has surprised me is the lack of use this seems to get in peoples lists. Especially when they are running Warrior units. It's open topped so can be fired from, AV13 protection and if you disembark or if you have a unit nearby on a roll of a 2+ you get D3 Warriors back from the dead. That could be objective sitting to the max while keeping those lovely Gauss shots. That being said I also think they benefit from large squads. I think the thing I find most funny is how people have been putting up lists with small 5 man Warrior squads, that will not last long. I won't go any further with these but I will say I like the look of having a couple of big units of these guys and maybe one unit of....

Immortals, coming in at 17pts per model with a 3+ save and with a Gauss Blaster rather than the Warriors Flayer with a point increase in Strength and AP bringing it to S5 AP4. Or and this is the part I like, exchange those to Tesla Carbines with that lovely ability of a roll of a 6 for two hits. The AP - hurts it but I think this is fair due to it could get rather nasty. Overall I think these would do nicely for thinning out infantry. A unit of 10 with these could be nasty. You don't need to go Tank Hunting with these as you more than likely have a bunch of Scarabs munching to give the rest of your armies weaponry good chance of destroying everything. I think a unit of 10 Tesla Carbines coming in at 170 is a good deal. If you want to make them your main troops I think Night Scythes (when they are eventually released) will be brilliant. I would recommend possibly having one 10 man unit with a few 5 man units dependant on points level if these are your main troops.

Personally I like the idea of mixing them but it seems alot of 'net lists' have made the Immortals the only logical choice. I think a good idea would be to have two big groups of Warriors backed up by small groups of Immortals with Tesla say for example you have 20 warriors back them up with two 5 man Immortal Squads.comes in at 430 points. This is just for an example and I'm not saying that's what you should run exactly but you get the idea. I personally think that the Ghost Arks maybe getting sold short a little especially if your running a predominate foot list. I think they are a viable choice seen as they make your warriors even more survivable.              

I don't think I have to say anything about the Night Scythe seen as most people think that's the only choice haha.

This is just my thoughts, please leave your thoughts on what you think are the best configurations for Troops are.

I shall leave you with a list I find to be the best I've written so far.


HQ
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Overlord - Warscythe - Command Barge - 180 pts

3x Crypteks - 105 pts
- HoD
- HoD
- HoD w/ Pulse

Troops
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10x Immortals - 170 pts
15x Warriors - 195 pts
15x Warriors - 195 pts

Fast Attack
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10x Scarabs - 150 pts
10x Scarabs - 150 pts

Heavy Support
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Annihilation Barge - 90 pts
Annihilation Barge - 90 pts
3x Spyders - 150 pts     

Thanks,

Warflake Out.

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Yet Another 1500 Point Necron List ...

Although I am enjoying writing lists with this Codex I feel rather limited because of the little I know of how they will work out so with out play testing or at least extensive research into other peoples playtesting I can't comment yet.

I do have a basic idea of what I'll need and that's to stay away from assault ;p.

Of all the lists I've been playing around with for this points level I think I like this one best as it has alot of guns that can hurt. Whether I'm right on that point remains to be seen but from what I gather I'm fairly confident this would do well. I'm not sure what it is though but I feel myself limited when writing 1500 point lists with these guys, it could possibly be that the things they do have are fairly expensive points wise. I think though that I have done a good job.

HQ


Overlord w/ Warscythe - 100

Command Barge - 80

Royal Court
Cryptek Harbringer of Destruction - Solar Pulse - 55
Cryptek Harbringer of Destruction - 35

Troops

Immortals x 10 - 170

Warriors x 9 -232 Ghost Ark

Immortals x 9 - 153


Fast Attack

3 x Heavy Destroyers - 185

9 x Scarabs - 135

Heavy Support

Annihilation Barge - 90

Annihilation Barge - 90

Doom Scythe - 175


I thought that I lacked ranged AT weaponry which is why I implemented the Doom Scythes and Heavy Destroyers. I really do like the look of the Doom Scythe and really look forward to playing with it, the Death Ray sounds silly but it also sounds fun. Tesla is one of my favourite things in the Codex so lots of that makes me very happy. The only other thing I may do with a list is trying to fit in a Monolith, sadly this may have to replace the Doom Scythe =[ unless you have advice on what I could do to fit it in?

If you have written lists I really want to see them so either post a link to where you have written them or just write them out in the comment section. It's not that I need inspiration I'm just really enjoying everyones different take on it.

Your opinions would be greatly appreciated.

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1500 Point Necrons:Now With AT

Following on from yesterday I put together another list that I think is a little more effective than the last.

HQ



Overlord w/ Warscythe - 100

Command Barge - 80


Royal Court
Cryptek Harbringer of Destruction - Solar Pulse - 55
Cryptek Harbringer of Destruction x 2 - 70




Troops


Immortals x 10 - 170


Immortals x 10 - 170


Warriors x 10 -130


Warriors x 10 - 130




Fast Attack


3 x Heavy Destroy - 180


Canoptek Scarabs x 6 - 90


Heavy Support


Doomsday Ark - 175


Canoptek Spyder x 3 - 150


1500




More Anti Tank, which a few people rightly pointed out on my last list, has been added. 


Let me know what you think of this one in the comments section.


One thing I shall address also is people getting confused over the Crypteks abilities. Yes I can take more than one of the same Harbringer, in this case of Destruction, it states that I cannot repeat unique wargear options from that type. As I have shown in my list I have three Harbringers of Destruction but only one has Solar Pulse, this is an example of what it means. Before people start telling others there wrong on various blogs please read the rules haha. 


Thanks,


Warflake Out

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I Have Written My First List

I just wanted to bring to your attention a list that I just written over on my other blog.

http://www.40kn00b.com/2011/11/initial-1500-point-necron-list.html

Please visit it and give me your thoughts either there or on here. This list is'nt anything special that I can tell as I wrote it after not having the book for very long and wrote it purely out of first glances, please by all means judge it as so haha.

Thanks,

Warflake Out.

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I Have The Necron Codex

And I really like it personally, to me it's not overpowered and not weak at all. I will review it properly once I get over the initial excitement of looking at the pretty pictures but I'll say some things I like about it from I have looked at so far.

Some things have been nerfed but in a way to reduce points costs, that is a good thing in my opinion. Thirteen point Warriors? Yes please.

The amount of special characters, even though I will more than likely not use them alot of the time and will more than likely opt for the cheaper Overlord option the choice is awesome. Also the amount of work they have in the backstory for them is awesome. This army has alot and I mean ALOT more character now which I think was needed.

The Night/Doom Scythes look like they shall be interesting and look forward to seeing the model for those. Furthermore the new look Wraiths look very interesting and I hope will be having a new model. On the subject of models I think it's a great idea of packaging the sets as two options like Deathmarks and Immortals etc and I really do like the new look of the models they have released.

The division in factions is also very cool, I had seen this in the White Dwarf but is further explained in this which in turn, as said previously, gives the army more character.

The weapons aren't what everyone was crying CHEESE over either, I think the weapons are good but I see alot of anti infantry and not a great deal of anti-tank but that maybe me just flicking through out of excitement. I would have liked for example hyperphase swords to be a bit more than power swords but maybe that's just me.

The C'tan Shard thing is interesting, they are fairly cheap points wise but not once you add upgrades and being that it's only one unit is going to get you far but I still may run one or two because I'd like to see how they do.

I think Quantum Shielding on the vehicles is pretty cool, increasing the armour values by 2 until a penetrating hit is caused.

One thing that ever since I saw the models I have been thinking, the big gun platforms. For example the Doomsday Ark, I just love the look of them and there stats definitely tempt me towards them.

This has been said many times I can imagine but one thing that disappoints me is the Flayed Ones, both there models and there stats personally. I don't think I shall be fitting them in any force soon.

I do like the Praetorians and the Lychguard and will more than likely use them, even at there Terminator costs. More than likely the Lychguard with Hypephase Swords and Dispersion Shields at a total cost of 225 for 5 models seems a little hefty though but I like them.
    
I am relatively new to Necrons so I don't know a great deal about there last Codex but I have had a quick look through and in my opinion they have done a good job in bringing them into 5th (and possibly into 6th? Remains to be seen).
  
This post is just me being like over excited and just blurting things out without actually reading much so take it as that please haha.

I shall try and pay more attention to it now I'm at home and have more time to focus on it I promise.

All I'll say is I am really happy I bought this Codex.

Thanks,

Warflake Out.

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Not Long Now...

Till I get my hands on that Codex!

Much has been said about them the past couple of days from a number of blogs but I have tried my best to ignore them until I pick up my copy.

Watched a couple of unboxing videos earlier also of the Ghost/Doomsday Ark and also the Command/Annihilation Barge and once again GW have out done themselves seemingly.

Whether I shall be purchasing either remains to be seen but stay tuned nonetheless.

Thanks,

Warflake Out    

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Necron Sample Armies

Pulled from Games Workshops What's New Today.

Making a 1,000 Necron army is very quick and easy. A couple of boxes of Necron Warriors make the core of the army, while the Immortals provide some heavier firepower. The Lychguard and the Overlord provide your army with some much-needed close combat crunch, while the Doomsday Ark is just plain terrifying. With this force you have weapons to deal with pretty much every situation.

At 1500 points you can field quite a terrifying number of Necrons. In this force I opted for more guns and less combat with the intention of pureeing my enemies with heavy firepower before they even got near me. The combination of Deathmarks, Immortals and Necron Warriors will make a real mess of enemy troops, while the Monoliths and the Annihilation Barges can deal with tanks and heavy infantry.


Thanks,


Warflake Out

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Necrons White Dwarf

So I actually made the effort of picking up this months White Dwarf just to get to see the points costs from the Battle Report and maybe see some info. What I got was a lot more than that. For Necrons this was a fantastic issue, I haven't bought a White Dwarf in over 8 years and I must say I don't remember it ever being like that, but that is beside the point.

First things first the battle report, the points costs from what I saw seem reasonable and they showcased most of the units being that it was 4000 points per side. I think the most interesting thing was that Necrons actually didn't win, I would have thought they would have made it so they do but it was actually a good battle report and both teams had a good chance. Both sides weren't optimised from what I could tell and were more geared towards gimmicks. Showcased some of the Necrons new abilities and they seem pretty cool and all I can say is I can't wait to get my codex to be able to read this in better detail.

One of the specialist HQs were used, Imotekh the Stormlord with his ability to spread a D6 S8 lightning storm over separate squads on a roll of a 6. Interesting ability that limits your ranged attacks due to it creating night fighting but can be stopped at any time. Another one of the units showcased was the Doomsday Ark, the one with the big gun haha. It has a stationary range of 72'' S9 AP1 Heavy 1, Large Blast and a Combat Range of 24'' S7 AP4 Heavy 1 etc pretty decent  One thing I have noticed is the the weak armour, this is conteracted by the Quantum Shielding ability which increases the front and side panels by 2 until a penetrating hit is scored.
Necron Warriors are 13 points now, marine stat line etc. Immortals are troops now, so we have a heavy weapon for the troops as promised. It is fairly clear that Necrons are an extremely shooty army and have good skills to do so but they also some extremely scary close combat elements if used right.

I would highly recommend this months WD if you really can't wait to get your codex and just want a small glimpse of the changes. Overall from what I can tell it doesn't seem OP, the only thing people can complain about from what I can see is the massive fluff changes.

Thanks,

Warflake Out.  

 

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Necrons - with Mat Ward

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Necrons Pre-Orders Now Up

Finally presented with the Pre-Orders from GW. Head over to gamesworkshop.com and go crazy haha.

Sorting my Pre-Orders out as soon as I awaken once more.

One thing I will also add is check out the new 360 photos they are doing now. There awesome.

Thanks.

Warflake Out.

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GW Necron Teaser

As if we needed it ;] but GW have released this video.




I shall be pre ordering the codex as soon as I can and as soon as I can get it I shall post about it.

Words can't describe how excited I am about this release.

Thanks.

Warflake Out.

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Possible New Necron Codex Page

So I'm not sure if this has already been seen or anything but I thought I'd throw this out there as I just watched it and thought this maybe a new thing.





Still a rumour, just counting down the days now!

EDIT I've just found out that this was 'leaked' back in May so more than likely not true. Though could be interesting to see how far off it is when the real one drops in 2 weeks.

Thanks.

Warflake Out.

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